Curse

Alleji · Jun 21, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Ether renewal SF plz.

(Can we even use that phrase anymore... after Ether Renewal got un-Ether Renewal'd?)

lyra_song · Jun 21, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Elite Form. (15...35...50 seconds.) Hostile spells targeting you fail, and attacks against you miss. End effect: lose all but 5...41...50 Health. This skill is disabled for 90 seconds.

romeus petrus · Jun 21, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

No to nerfs on SF, stay the way it is now. Or it will be impossible to farm ectos solo in the UW.

lol ya it was very impossible to farm ectos before...*rolls eyes

Jiao Yang · Jun 22, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Nerf SF.

Its ridiculous that a skill with that kind of effect can be exploited so much. Another bad update by Anet- a skill which was once unusable is now completely over-powered.

doudou_steve · Jun 22, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

the only thing thing that should get nerfed is this thread

Low prices are good.

GreatBabai · Jun 22, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Maybe instead of nerfing SF or plains just nerf a root of this problem - ecto?
It was never intended to be a trade medium so just make it craftable at artisan - something like 500g, 10 dust, 5 spirit wood planks
It will also somewhat healthy impact gw economics through deflation

Sora267 · Jun 22, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by GreatBabai

Maybe instead of nerfing SF or plains just nerf a root of this problem - ecto?
It was never intended to be a trade medium so just make it craftable at artisan - something like 500g, 10 dust, 5 spirit wood planks
It will also somewhat healthy impact gw economics through deflation

Then people will QQ about the price of their FoW armor going down. But this could work if the # of ectos required for FoW was increased and people could trade in their FoW sets for ectos, and if the gold cap was raised.

Shakti · Jun 22, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38

I think they did buff the plains lol. I got to the 1st rider...was dead in 2 hits. Not sure what he did, it happened that fast. Before anyone asks, yes SF was up, it was less than 1/2 way through. I've done the run many times very successfully. Yes, it could've been some weird glitch, but I don't see how. 2 hits from the rider and it was "your party has been defeated"...lol.

Kinda funny actually, I figured they would do something. Gonna test again after my husband gets home and have him hop on his sin to check too. I'm not at all disappointed if they did "nerf" it, rather amused actually. If they did do something it was damn effective lmao

EDIT:

Never mind. Ran it again no prob as did my husband. I'm almost disappointed, it woulda' been funny as hell. Must have just been a weird glitch, SF showed as running *shrug* O well....the insanity continues.

Don't get me wrong, it is nice to farm for fow this fast in a way...but having run this, it is utterly absurd how this build works

Arkantos · Jun 22, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

No to nerfs on SF, stay the way it is now. Or it will be impossible to farm ectos solo in the UW.

So you're saying before shadow form got buffed, it was impossible to solo farm in UW?

enter_the_zone · Jun 22, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Because being indefinitely invincible should not be allowed in any online game.

Funny that, I never seem to be invincible to the traps... tried this run about 5 times, always the damn traps get me. Mhe, plenty of other things to do/farm for money.

False Healer · Jun 22, 2008, 05:17 AM // 05:17

Yeah nerf the sin so I can go back to farming ectos with my monk or my necro or my ele or my war or my rit or my ranger or my derv.... wait what needs nerfed again?

ANET NERF ECTOS NOW!!!

Lord High Pwner · Jun 22, 2008, 05:40 AM // 05:40

why should anet nerf ectos? Ectos are a payer designated deal, maybe instead of everyone bitching about ecto prices lets raise gold cap, or if people stop paying 100k + then we dont have problem and ectos will be used as armor not trade. Nobody wins in this arguement and as soon as we all figure that out we can all bash each others heads in over a new topic. I for one am tired of hearing the tears drop over SF and ER and ecto prices.

You Look Grim · Jun 22, 2008, 05:54 AM // 05:54

I like things the way they are. I enjoy low ecto prices ~_~

holababe · Jun 22, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

don't you guys understand, if you nerf SF, then what are going to equip your heroes with, a useless non-max weapon? SF is the only build that has the capacity to farm green weapons in NM/HM (HM particularly).

No, no it's not.
I farmed greens before SF buff and I could still farm them if there was a nerf.

Pleikki · Jun 22, 2008, 07:03 AM // 07:03

it would be maybe best way Nerf Ecto Drop rates to Really low (so ectos would go 10-15kish/ea so rich ppl would be richer etc)

and aswell nerf good drops from Uw so gold drop rates..
thats how they wouldnt need nerf Sf cus Sf can farm many other places aswell just other places doesnt break the economy so bad.

FoxBat · Jun 22, 2008, 07:14 AM // 07:14

If you want to "save the ecto", UW has to be nerfed. Obsfleshing the area is really only slightly more challenging/inefficient than SF. I would replace power drain with leech signet, a low impact adjustment for a generic group.

On principle I would think SF deserves the nerf though. Its basically IDDQD, wheras at least 55s and the like have difficulty/failure in many places.

Avarre · Jun 22, 2008, 08:11 AM // 08:11

ANet just needs to bring out an UW armor crafter that needs 250 ecto for a full set. Prices will rocket, players will be happy, screenshotters will take happy screenshots, and all will be well.

-rightuos- · Jun 22, 2008, 09:22 AM // 09:22

Anet just needs to grow a pair of brass ones and tell people holding onto ectos too bad. This subject is stupid to even talk about , you all flippin out over SF have Globs of Ectoplasm all wrong. Glob Of Ectoplasm is a rare material. Thats it nothing more. It serves one sole purpose, and thats armor. Just because some dude realized he could get his ectos via trade a couple years ago instead of actually going to UW did not mean it was written in Anet law that this is now some equal commodity for gold...
A lot of you are playing the hypocrite game too. When an idea is mentioned on the basis of "buy a statue worth 100k it stays that value and can only purchased from an NPC and not dropped by monsters". Then the hypocrites jump in with well Anet's reason for the 100k cap on trades was because they didnt believe anything in the game was worth more than that...So then why ya holding onto all the ectos there guy? If the intention is nothing should be worth more than 100k your argument in the ecto subjects is now void.

On subject, nerf neither whats the point. Ectos do not drive the economy, In game items will not fall in price because of ectos, I dont understand why anyone thinks this. An item that would cost 100k and 10 ectos is now gonna run 100k and 15-20 ecto, no drop in price. however the People with a ton of ectos I can see why they would have a problem with this. Ectos like Shards aren't worth anything but what those are willing to pay to get obsidian armor or those looking for chaos gloves. Ectos are not gold, never have been.

Riceboi · Jun 22, 2008, 09:31 AM // 09:31

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Originally Posted by -rightuos-

Anet just needs to grow a pair of brass ones and tell people holding onto ectos too bad. This subject is stupid to even talk about , you all flippin out over SF have Globs of Ectoplasm all wrong. Glob Of Ectoplasm is a rare material. Thats it nothing more. It serves one sole purpose, and thats armor. Just because some dude realized he could get his ectos via trade a couple years ago instead of actually going to UW did not mean it was written in Anet law that this is now some equal commodity for gold...
A lot of you are playing the hypocrite game too. When an idea is mentioned on the basis of "buy a statue worth 100k it stays that value and can only purchased from an NPC and not dropped by monsters". Then the hypocrites jump in with well Anet's reason for the 100k cap on trades was because they didnt believe anything in the game was worth more than that...So then why ya holding onto all the ectos there guy? If the intention is nothing should be worth more than 100k your argument in the ecto subjects is now void.

On subject, nerf neither whats the point. Ectos do not drive the economy, In game items will not fall in price because of ectos, I dont understand why anyone thinks this. An item that would cost 100k and 10 ectos is now gonna run 100k and 15-20 ecto, no drop in price. however the People with a ton of ectos I can see why they would have a problem with this. Ectos like Shards aren't worth anything but what those are willing to pay to get obsidian armor or those looking for chaos gloves. Ectos are not gold, never have been.

nice response! thanks.

N1ghtstalker · Jun 22, 2008, 09:33 AM // 09:33

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Originally Posted by Omnidragon42

Deadly Paradox -> Arcane Echo -> Shadow Form
Wait for it
Cast the Echoed Shadow Form
By the time the Arcane Echo is back, Shadow Form is as well. The only downside is that it requires more precise timing and /Me does less damage than /E

and that's a downside for people so the chaos planes will be farmed less and ectos will stay the original price